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Shame on him.
On the other.... I can see where he comes from on it. And at least he's man enough to it what sort of person he is. And that speaks volumes to his integrity and potential for redemption.
well, let's hope he returns in a cuirass
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Loving your comic!
You know, that's it I bet!
On the other, he knew who/what he was approaching with the offer of comfort.
And he blew it.
For serious though, it was definitely important for him to get out of the position he was in because he was clearly uncomfortable, BUT he could've talked to her about it, asked to turn around, asked to be the big spoon, been honest with her about his fear even though it would've hurt her feelings, etc. This way he just dumps the emotional pain on her with no explanation and peaces out. Bad Form dude, Bad Form.
but fck, hope she okay after the guy bailing from the promised cuddles
The real test of character is what he does now.
But yeah, could have just said something to her. ^^; 'Hey, mind if we switch sides?' or even make an excuse of 'I'm used to sleeping on my belly/back. Lets turn this around some.' Betting she wouldn't have minded in the slightest. :3
Extra blanket wrapped around the thumb claw perhaps just in case. Tada! All night cuddles. :3
COWAAAARD!
Damn you, stop writing three dimensional characters who's struggles are deeply relatable and feel painfully honest! (Actually no, keep doing that, its actually a very good thing.)
Some people just have no appreciation for the finer things in life.
She needs a hug or multiple hugs
I feel bad for Isher, but it doesn't exactly look like Semyel wanted to ditch her either.
Everyone doesn't always act rationally when stressed out; so I really empathize with him too...
For like 1.6 minutes
Val sure loves twisting the knife, doesn't he? Elim found that one out the hard way.
I could see it somewhat relating to "Toxic masculinity" or patriarchy, which are unquestionably problematic. But aren't non-straight people just as subject to those influences? He was obviously struggling with and questioning his own thoughts of "Emasculation". Could this have not played out just the same if they were both of the same gender? And besides, I think that the people here referring to panic attacks are probably much closer to on target with his motivation here, which even he is questioning at this point.
Also, he seemed to show a fairly decent level of sensitivity when he was trying to pick her up and on the rest of their "date" up to the point at which he found himself in her tight embrace with a couple of six inch blades in his face.
Isher could perhaps use a gentle lesson on how to cuddle, that seems like a bit of a scary position for many people. But his thought was not “She’s like surrounding me and I feel claustrophobic and there are steak knife claws in my face,” his thought was that he feels emasculated and like a little baby man. This combined with what he imagined on the page before this, where he’s the big one cuddling a much smaller Isher, makes me think he’s insecure. Straight culture has taught him that he’s supposed to be the big man. When he feels small he panics.
It’s been my experience that queer culture is one of the major things that breaks you free of the toxic parts of straight culture. Certainly most gay guys aren’t concerned with being manly or being a real man. I how broken I felt for not being interested in anyone growing up and how terrible it felt to look girly in any way. Life got much better when I realized I’m asexual, went to college and met other queer people, and now I see how immature I was. I attribute that to growing up surrounded exclusively by straights.
That kind of culture is still the ground of our society, although thankfully things seem to be improving, if for no other reason than that the older, less open minded people who were products of that culture continue to die off, and the newer generations of kids have an increasingly better chance of growing up with a much more enlightened and nuanced reading of emotion and sexuality.
I'm guessing that I'm older than you, and believe me, when I was growing up things were much worse. I happen to be straight -Granted, a pretty bent sort of straight, but I think that's partly because of a combination of things: A generally antagonistic attitude for societal conventions and authority since I was a kid; where and when I grew up; (The S.F. bay area during the 60's and 70's) and having some great queer role models that I really loved and respected as I grew up. So I may be a bit of an exception to the rule, having lived in that particular bubble.
I had long hair from as soon as I could get away with it. (Maybe starting from when I was ten years old or so). I often caught shit for it. And I was never a terribly butch kind of guy. I was never into sports, I've always loved music, art, nature, and generally more intellectual pursuits. My dad was a classic straight hardass -but once again, I'd say he was a product of his environment. At one point as a teen my folks actually came to the conclusion that I was gay and sat me down for a serious talk in hopes of getting me some "Help". -You can imagine my confusion. I can't begin to count the times I was called a faggot and harassed by bullies. But I always liked who I was and just said "Fuck you". Still, I don't think it was because they were straight. (I'd be willing to bet some of them weren't!) I think it was because of the social environment they grew up in, and the aforementioned toxic masculinity, patriarchy and homophobia.
It's quite difficult to do something that you don't even know is possible or that everyone around you tries to shame you for.
Dude. It's not too late.
Go back. Fess up. She's a big sweetie, she'll understand. Do you really want to do this to her, and yourself? Don't be a weasel! (My apologies to all weasels.)
As everyone knows, Yinglet hugs iz zhe best hugs!
Probably also would be difficult to even bring it up; she'd probably feel really bad. But that would've been a lot better.
That's how it goes, sometimes your rational mind puts you in a place your guts can't measure up to. Sometimes doing the right thing ain't how your brain allows you to work.
Poor Isher. :[
Yeah it sucks for Isher that he had to go. But what was he supposed to do? Ask Isher to walk on eggshells all night for him, just so he could sleep? He was scared and panicking. That's not how a date should end.
Sometimes two people have needs that can't both be met while together, and the only solution is to go their separate ways. I have no doubt that he could have gotten used to sharing a bed with her over time, but this was always gonna be a one night stand. Such is life.
I'm implying nothing. I'm stating it openly. It's cowardice. Semyel said it himself. Not being the one in control equals emasculation.
Perhaps you missed that part.
Sometimes different people's needs get in the way of each other's, and the only solution is to separate. It can't always be helped.
A , an ab, a coward.
The least that could have been done is honesty, or even a face-saving lie. Something as simple as "I'm having trouble sleeping". But he chickened out, discarded, ran.
Sorry, but I find this to be indefensible. I am not going to change my mind that such low behavior is okay, be it in a comic or in real life... a behavior which is extremely common and which I've seen many times. Any defense is explicitly "his wants and needs come before hers; semen is more important than tears".
Because the man's needs must come before the woman's.
Because when it doesn't, it's "emasculation".
Because female grief is lesser than male power-fear.
Because bullshit.
But let's set that aside, and say he DID do that for her. Isher isn't the type of person who would want their partner doing that to themself on her behalf. If she ever found out about it, all the positive feelings she had for that evening would be turned on their head and she'd feel like a gigantic piece of shit for putting him through that.
As I said and you ignored (and I'm starting to see why), he KNEW she was big and scary and vulnerable, was attracted to all three of those traits, competed with other men to secure that for himself, and preyed upon her anyway. And you want to see people like that get away with it because they are suddenly confronted with the consequences of their actions. You're painting the aggressor as the victim. That says far more about YOU as a person and what YOU are trying to justify than it does about me. I just hope the women around you know that you think it's an excuse so they can get you out of their lives and guard against your own toxic bullshit and other actions.
Cowards hate being called out.
DON'T THEY.
Nevertheless, what an intriguing direction this one night stand took. I was wondering what this night could mean for Isher, then this dude is like, "nah, I'll bail," and I'm like, "well, shit."
To be honest, I'm not totally mad at Semyel, mostly for the same reason others have already stated. What really interests me is the reaction this page received. I'm glad most can sympathize and understand the choice the guy made even if they don't agree, while it feels like some people have lost all respect for him because of this one screw-up even though he's been nothing but nice to her all night up until this point, which is Twitter-cancellation levels of intelligence. Although, I recognize the importance of not being naive or gullible, it's still important to recognize the opportunity to learn from mistakes and to redeem oneself.
I feel very sorry for her...because what she really wanted in the first place was a bit of closeness.
Maybe it's cold to say it, but she needs to know the truth.